I was looking into building a on the cheap and in my hunt for parts I found this Sarco kit that often gets negative reviews. In fact for all the bad reviews I found, I only found one positive one on Youtube. To test the kit without buying a new frame and slide, I used my Colt Gold Cup frame, and a A1 slide.
The reason I could not use the Gold Cup slide was because the hood of the Sarco barrel was wider, but luckily I was able to get the A1 slide from Craig and it fit the Gold Cup lower. Enough of all the boring stuff. I was pleasantly surprised by the accuracy of the barrel and slide combo that I used. The barrel needed minor fitting and had good lockup. Besides pulling 2 shots the rest of them were all touching.
Anyway, enough of the chitchat here is my video review:. Your email address will not be published. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed. Your email:. Posted on November 26, by TM. Here is a picture of some of the parts: The negative: All they parts have seams, either from stamping them out or from casting. You get everything you need except a frame and slide All the parts can be cleaned up and blued Spoiler alert!
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Bookmark the permalink. Leave a Reply Cancel reply Your email address will not be published. Social Media.Advertise Here. Attention if you have renewed your paid membership on the site but it has not taken effect within 24 hours please send the tech account a private message here to get your account corrected and for further instruction. There is a connectivity error with Paypal and the site Thank you from the management. If you are not pleased with anything else you've seen, you will never be pleased with any result that comes from building on SARCO parts.
It really depends on what parts kit you are looking at and what Sarco decides to send you that day. They stock a lot of RIA parts. I think quite a few of the parts are Masen parts too. Others had a true parts kit with beavertail grip safeties and GI style hammers from different companies that didn't work well together. It's a crap shoot. You could only need a few tools and minor fitting or need to work on every part.
The parts themselves are cheap and the virtue of them is that if you mess one up there is no need to worry too much about it. What characteristics are you looking for and what is your price range? If you are a hobbiest like me it is probably cheaper to buy a GI RIA or Mil-Spec Springfield that has the major parts already fitted and then alter whatever small parts you want to add.
Even if you mess them up, you still have a working gun. Again, it is just a hobby for me but I am sure some of the experts will be along soon to help you out. Remove Advertisements.
Originally Posted by Slatton. So I have been researching for a long while different s and I am unsatisfied with all of them. They are either priced to high, or don't have what I am looking for. What tools do I need to build a from Sarco parts? I own a micrometer and I plan to invest in a good file set. Any other advice? Slatton, I can't help in the advice capacity except to say it might be helpful if you list the manufacturers you've looked into, specifics of you perspective build and your price range.
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There is a connectivity error with Paypal and the site Thank you from the management. I'm not sure I'm grasping your descriptions.
Sorry I'm brand new to 's. That's funny I actually just watched that video, that was very helpful. I'll try to explain this better. So I've assembled the lower half up to the safety trigger, sear, dis-connector, hammer, mainspring housing, leaf spring, etc.
I can't get the thumb safety to fit into the gun when the hammer is cocked and the grip safety is in position. When I cock the hammer and ignore the grip safety, the thumb safety slides into position and works as it should.
Also when use the guide pin for the thumb safety to hold the grip safety in place the grip safety works as it is supposed to. This leads me to believe that the grip safety is the part that needs to be fitted but I can't be positive.
I hope that description is at least a little more clear. Remove Advertisements. You are flying blind with a less than stellar parts kit. Sounds like you are saying that you can get the thumb safety in the gun if you do not install the grip safety. Yes or no? Got pics? The first post says with the thumb safety in place the hammer does not stay cocked. The second post says with the grip safety out the thumb safety works. Is that correct? Try this: assembly everything ,put the thumb safety on, Depress the grip safety, Pull the trigger.
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Does the hammer fall? You may need to put the slide in place so the movement of the thumb safety is limited to it's normal range. Pics would help clarify things if at all possible. Are you sure you're putting it together correctly? Originally Posted by tywest I got a Advertise Here.
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There is a connectivity error with Paypal and the site Thank you from the management. No such thing as a "converted military BCG".
There are several variations of a BCG, one of which is commonly known as "milspec". As far as the kits go they are all used parts except for the barrel which is probobly a cheaper make like a wilson etc Remove Advertisements.
Sarco, like a lot of these companies sell kits for firearms made up of the lowest quality parts available. These parts are the grade of quality you get at gun shows, which is to say, they're cheaply made cast steel and are usually out of spec in at least some areas.
Any USGI parts in the kit are almost always well used and worn parts that may have been refinished to look new. If you want to build a firearm, you're better off quality-wise to buy individual name brand parts.
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This won't be as cheap, but then you also have a lower risk of having to post one of those posts "My new build won't work, what's wrong" that you see on the gun forums. You get exactly what you pay for. In these kits you're getting substandard parts. Originally Posted by dfariswheel.
I have been in contact with Sarco. The A1 kits have the converted military BCG. None of their barrels are chrome lined. The kits are a mixture of USGI surplus and new commercial parts. I may go with the Stag deal as it has better specs than the DPMS and after tax savings there is almost no difference in price.
Neither of these rifles has sights, so I have that to add, I would probably go with a red dot and 5X magnifier. Have you been reading any of the other AR threads that are running now, or recently? If not, you're missing some good info. The Earl o Sammich. You talking about this one? Sounds like a good deal to me. Sell off the barrel and buy a new one, get a good lower and you're into a mostly Colt AR for under a grand. I'll trade you some A2 furniture for that A1 stuff.Discussion in ' Gunsmithing ' started by awpJan 17, Tags: builders kit rock island.
Jan 17, 1. I fell prey to the blem frames Palmetto State had on sale during Black Friday last year and ordered 2 carbon steel frames for future projects. Well, for one of those frames the future is now. I spent a couple of weeks digging around for parts kits and the only reasonably priced options I could find were either the Sarco or Rock Island kits. I couldn't find any reviews of the RI kits that weren't years old. I've owned Rock Island GI models over the years and had a pretty good idea of the quality of the parts so I took a deep breath and ordered the full size.
Ordered the kit Thursday afternoon and it was delivered today which is a perfectly reasonable time frame from WA to TX. I haven't had much time tonight to go over the kit but I did check out what concerned me the most: was the barrel already fitted to the slide or would I be starting at square 1? From what I can tell, I'm probably starting from square 0. The barrel doesn't feel like it's locking into the lugs. I think the hood is a little too long but I haven't had a chance to measure it yet.
The width is OK I just think it's a shade too long. And it comes with the link already installed. My second concern was how much work would be needed if any to fit the slide and frame. After oiling the rails and working the slide back and forth a few times I think the work will mainly be polishing, no drastic metal removal. This is my first build so I'll be posting and providing updates as time and life allow and I hope this will also serve as a useful review for anyone wondering about the RI kits.
On the the pics I have so far As it came out of the two padded envelopes: Bag o parts by awpon Flickr The slide was in it's own bag with the barrel sitting in the slide. This was as far as it went using light pressure without me forcing anything: slide frame first try by awpon Flickr Adding more oil and gently working things back and forth got me further but still not quite all the way.
Sounds my high school years Hopefully I can get cranking and really make some progress this weekend. Thanks for reading this far! Jan 19, 2. I spent my copious free time yesterday evening lapping the slide and frame with a light mix of oil and JB Bore paste. Maybe an hour total usually grabbed minutes at a time and finally ended up here: frame and slide lapped by awpon Flickr With the barrel installed it doesn't quite go into battery so it looks like the barrel fitting kit will be added to my tooling order.
I haven't studied the parts closely yet so I can't say which ones might be MIM. My guess is most of them but I haven't looked hard for seams or mold lines yet. FWIW the hammer comes with the strut attached, the trigger is a 3 hole model with an overtravel screw and it appears the mag release has the small screw and spring installed as well so those are some nice touches IMO.Advertise Here. Attention if you have renewed your paid membership on the site but it has not taken effect within 24 hours please send the tech account a private message here to get your account corrected and for further instruction.
There is a connectivity error with Paypal and the site Thank you from the management. You will not learn much using them nor get a fair appraisal of your work. I'm not sure why bdavis said using Sarco parts you will "not get a fair appraisal of your work". I'm sure Mr. Davis is very experienced in these matters and I'm not, and I agree that, in general, Sarco parts are low-end quality.
But, it seems to me that building your firstfor a learning experience, by using "cheap" parts is a reasonable approach.E-Sarco 1911 Kit Completed
It didn't turn out to be any great beauty, but it was functional, safe and shot straight. You might want to consider an Essex frame and or slide for your first try. Good shooting Remove Advertisements.
Sarco stuff is current production imbel, Taurus and other South american stuff with a bit of the U. There is nothing wrong with it if you watch what your doing. I said Sarco would not give a fair assessment because of the quality of the parts.
For example and this may not be where you are going you want to flatten and serrate the top of the slide. It tends to not be truly round and radii and the flats tend to be wavy. Items like the trigger track and the holes tend not to be a true.
Essex would be a better choice. Better yet, Caspian and go very slow. Mistakes can be fixed rather than thrown away, and the end product will be much better, usefule and something to cherish.
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Thread starter pdxjohann Start date Sep 30, Messages Reactions As most of you probably know, Sarco sell parts and frames for pistols, revolvers and long arms. Have you any experience with building up a from frame on up? Who has the triggers and firing pins and on and on? What do you think? Any other opinions? Messages 2, Reactions Their frames and other parts can be hit and miss as to being spec.
You get what you pay for. But, if you want to learn how to build aand not worry about ruining good quality parts, that's a good place to start.
Oro Western WA. If you can afford to pay more for quality parts, you will have a better result. The problem with these kits is the random and used nature of the parts thrown into them - some are in spec, some are out, all are well-worn.